From owner-ietf-outbound@ietf.org Thu Feb 28 08:14:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by calcite.rhyolite.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g1SFEECg011631 for env-from ; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 08:14:15 -0700 (MST) Received: by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) id KAA26668 for ietf-outbound.04@ietf.org; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 10:00:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) id JAA25618 for ietf-mainout; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 09:45:24 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: ietf.org: majordom set sender to owner-ietf@ietf.org using -f Received: from mail.localweb.com (ip-66-179-11-3.name-host.com [66.179.11.3]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id BAA03807 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 01:10:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from uranus.ontheInter.net (66-169-72-161.charternc.net [66.169.72.161]) by mail.localweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA12727 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 01:09:57 -0500 Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.2.20020227004617.0188d200@mail.ontheInter.net> X-Sender: gelman2@mail.ontheInter.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 01:09:51 -0500 To: ietf@ietf.org From: Michael Allen Gelman Subject: Vernon Schryver Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-ietf@ietf.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: ietf@ietf.org X-DCC--Metrics: calcite.rhyolite.com 101; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Status: R My name is Michael Allen Gelman. I am the inventor of the 3rd level domain redirector and a one-time submitter of a proposal to the IETF. (draft-gelman-phone2web-00.txt) I feel it is important that I give you a 'heads up' on Vernon Schryver (vjs@calcite.rhyolite.com) This individual has been harassing me and one of my clients, has placed out domains on a black list of spam organizations, and has threatened to publish a private email message I had sent to him. Why, you ask? Merely because I sold a domain to an ISP who's customer sent an email that Vernon Schryver perceived to be spam. Whether the sender of the email is a spammer is in question to begin with, but this man has published the ISP's domain and my domain on a list: http://www.rhyolite.com/anti-spam/spammers.html Neither ontheInter.net nor aschwebhosting.com are spammers. I don't believe that being on this list will injure me or my domain client, but I thought you should know about Vernon Schryver. This man is either a bully and a troublemaker or I caught him on his worst day. I had explained to him that I resell domains to ISPs, and that's the extent of my involvement in what he called spam. His reply was a threat to publish my private email. I doubt he would list Network Solutions as a spammer, but it's easy to pick on a small company. Naturally, I don't ever spam. Please bear this in mind if considering implementing any of his software. (http://www.rhyolite.com) I would hate to see this individual be able to actually cause serious problems for innocent people, such as myself. Have a great day! - Michael Allen Gelman ------------------------------------------------- Get the domain: YourName.ontheInter.net for FREE Get the domain: YourName.com only $19 http://ontheInter.net